Joanna Gaines is sharing the secret to her long-term partnership. The HGTV star and media personality has been married to her husband, Chip Gaines, for the past 23 years. She's revealing what she's learned.
© WireImageGaines was featured on Kylie Kelce's podcast "Not Gonna Lie," revealing that the key to their relationship and business partnership is that they're both incredibly different.
"What's the secret? I love just how opposite we are," she said.
Gaines said that the reason why viewers tune into their programming is because they appreciate both perspectives that the couple brings to the table.
"I do feel like once you understand that Chip's strengths and my strengths are very different but together, it really does create, like, magic."
"There's a tension there, but then there's, like, a power there that really happens when you embrace it."
Gaines said that she and her husband are not afraid to change and to challenge each other, with those changes making them better partners. She revealed that Chip has pushed her to change for the better despite feeling comfortable in her ways. "I mean, if it were up to me, I'd have been the same person I was at 14," she said.
"Chip is just, like, challenging me every day. But I think it's holding each other's differences with this respect and almost this awe."
Who are Joanna and Chip Gaines?
© Todd Owyoung/NBC via Getty ImageJoanna and Chip Gaines are the stars of the show "Fixer Upper" and have made numerous TV shows over the years, documenting their home renovation programs and growing their brand from a small business into a global enterprise.
The couple met in Waco, Texas, back in 2001, and got married in 2003. Their empire includes the Magnolia channel, a quarterly magazine, a TV network, real estate companies, vacation rentals, a restaurant, and more.
In an interview with PEOPLE last year, the couple revealed they liked to try out new activities together as a bonding experience, like dancing lessons and working out.
“[When we started] we didn’t know how to hold our hands. It’s hard to make eye contact with even your best friend and wife of 22 years. It feels really strange, awkward. But then after two or three weeks, we started looking forward to those lessons,” said Chip of their dance experience. “It was this sweet reminder that all of us could use refreshes and challenges in our relationships.”
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